Comments on: One High Point; Two Communities http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/ Happenings in West Seattle's newest master-planned community. Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:55:01 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Koni http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1784 Koni Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:05:53 +0000 http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1784 Just discovered this blog and had to put in my two cents! I have lived next door to Highpoint for going on seven years now (it literally wraps around my house on three sides) and have seen the amazing evolution of this neighborhood. When I first bought my house, my friends literally shrieked in dismay because they were afraid for me living there. Sure, I had to ask drug dealers to leave my property (with a smile and a glass of ice water on a very hot day, they went and never returned), and, on several occasions I had to call the police because of bizarre and violent stuff happening practically on my doorstep. However, even in the old Highpoint I had some amazingly cool neighbors living in the "low income" housing! They were the ones who talked to me! They were the ones who kept an eye on me and my home, telling me who came by while I was away, what they looked like, what kind of car they drove etc. Thankfully, many of those people were first in line to move into the new subsidised housing. One woman ,who works in the pea patch garden, makes it a point to bring me sunflower starts every year even though we can hardly understand each other because of the language barrier. I have to say that since the new housing has arrived, the problems have decreased a great deal. Now I am mainly annoyed by the litter (complaining to the rental management company has done no good), of course the car stereo noise, and a new problem, dog poop everywhere in my parking strip garden! I have to believe that is not coming from the low income folks.....hmmmmm? Are they even allowed to have dogs? Surprisingly, the folks in the market rate housing that is kitty corner and across the street from my house are actually less friendly and interactive than the sometimes reticent low income neighbors I make an effort to talk to. The new homeowners all park in front of my house instead of in their garages, sometimes blocking my driveway, but seldom wave or talk to me when I am out in my garden. One way that has worked for me is to talk to everyone I encounter when I am coming and going from my house. I have many acquaintences now and they keep their eyes open for me. They know who the trouble makers are in the neighborhood and sometimes can talk to the parents of those who are young enough to respond to that sort of thing. I am a small, very white, blond woman, but I find that even the teenagers respond when I confront them with their bad behavior, whether it is littering, or abusing the landscaping, etc. Usually, they are so embarassed about being confronted (I usually try to make it a funny and obvious statement like "Hey, I think you dropped something!") that they apologize and pick up the litter etc. I have often thought that a neighborhood watch group would be fabulous. We have the meeting room at the library on Raymond street which would be a great spot to gather for free. Everyone should have the number of the security guards who patrol the subsidized housing, and also the rental management company. It seems like it could be negotiated with the management company to send out some kind of flier to tenants addressing noise issues (no loud car stereos) and littering etc. I don't think that is a lot to ask. As far as illegal, or suspicious behavior, everyone needs to be comfortable with calling the police. If they receive an exceptional amount of calls, something will have to give! I have had at least half a dozen abandoned cars towed through the city's website that Ken mentioned. Please everyone, talk to each other! A strong and happy community starts there ;) Koni Just discovered this blog and had to put in my two cents!
I have lived next door to Highpoint for going on seven years now (it literally wraps around my house on three sides) and have seen the amazing evolution of this neighborhood.

When I first bought my house, my friends literally shrieked in dismay because they were afraid for me living there. Sure, I had to ask drug dealers to leave my property (with a smile and a glass of ice water on a very hot day, they went and never returned), and, on several occasions I had to call the police because of bizarre and violent stuff happening practically on my doorstep.

However, even in the old Highpoint I had some amazingly cool neighbors living in the “low income” housing! They were the ones who talked to me! They were the ones who kept an eye on me and my home, telling me who came by while I was away, what they looked like, what kind of car they drove etc. Thankfully, many of those people were first in line to move into the new subsidised housing. One woman ,who works in the pea patch garden, makes it a point to bring me sunflower starts every year even though we can hardly understand each other because of the language barrier.

I have to say that since the new housing has arrived, the problems have decreased a great deal. Now I am mainly annoyed by the litter (complaining to the rental management company has done no good), of course the car stereo noise, and a new problem, dog poop everywhere in my parking strip garden! I have to believe that is not coming from the low income folks…..hmmmmm? Are they even allowed to have dogs?

Surprisingly, the folks in the market rate housing that is kitty corner and across the street from my house are actually less friendly and interactive than the sometimes reticent low income neighbors I make an effort to talk to. The new homeowners all park in front of my house instead of in their garages, sometimes blocking my driveway, but seldom wave or talk to me when I am out in my garden.

One way that has worked for me is to talk to everyone I encounter when I am coming and going from my house. I have many acquaintences now and they keep their eyes open for me. They know who the trouble makers are in the neighborhood and sometimes can talk to the parents of those who are young enough to respond to that sort of thing. I am a small, very white, blond woman, but I find that even the teenagers respond when I confront them with their bad behavior, whether it is littering, or abusing the landscaping, etc. Usually, they are so embarassed about being confronted (I usually try to make it a funny and obvious statement like “Hey, I think you dropped something!”) that they apologize and pick up the litter etc.

I have often thought that a neighborhood watch group would be fabulous. We have the meeting room at the library on Raymond street which would be a great spot to gather for free. Everyone should have the number of the security guards who patrol the subsidized housing, and also the rental management company.

It seems like it could be negotiated with the management company to send out some kind of flier to tenants addressing noise issues (no loud car stereos) and littering etc. I don’t think that is a lot to ask.

As far as illegal, or suspicious behavior, everyone needs to be comfortable with calling the police. If they receive an exceptional amount of calls, something will have to give! I have had at least half a dozen abandoned cars towed through the city’s website that Ken mentioned.

Please everyone, talk to each other! A strong and happy community starts there ;)

Koni

]]> By: Sean http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1707 Sean Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:30:17 +0000 http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1707 bk, I agree with everything you said... except the part about expecting this to happen. Your income doesn't determine your behavior. It doesn't matter what my neighbor’s income level is and it is not fair to good ones out there to wrap them up in this stereotype. I shouldn't expect to have my property damaged and watch fights in the streets simply because somebody might not be getting a very large pay check. I don't know the financial situation of those who damaged my property. I know for a fact that people can be just as rude, inconsiderate, insane, and violent as anybody else in this world, no matter what tax bracket they're in. I'm just saying in my experience there seems to be a collective crowd of bad apples in HP that should be dealt with appropriately by the authorities. If those authorities mean more police patrols or parents keeping a sharper eye on where their kids are at 2 am.... either way it would make a much safer and friendlier neighborhood. bk,

I agree with everything you said… except the part about expecting this to happen. Your income doesn’t determine your behavior. It doesn’t matter what my neighbor’s income level is and it is not fair to good ones out there to wrap them up in this stereotype. I shouldn’t expect to have my property damaged and watch fights in the streets simply because somebody might not be getting a very large pay check.

I don’t know the financial situation of those who damaged my property. I know for a fact that people can be just as rude, inconsiderate, insane, and violent as anybody else in this world, no matter what tax bracket they’re in. I’m just saying in my experience there seems to be a collective crowd of bad apples in HP that should be dealt with appropriately by the authorities. If those authorities mean more police patrols or parents keeping a sharper eye on where their kids are at 2 am…. either way it would make a much safer and friendlier neighborhood.

]]> By: bk http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1706 bk Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:29:18 +0000 http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1706 Hey Sean, I'm surprized you didn't expect this to happen, you were moving to HP mixed with low icome families. Besides ballard or magnolia, you are going to live in sort of a diverse neighborhood if you want to live in Seattle. That really sucks what you've gone through, I just moved here 5 months ago, but its been great for me besides some of the annoyances. I have to admit, if I had to park on the sidewalks, I would be worried, luckily I have a garage. I think you won't get anything back in return if you sell your house, its a buyers market with prices falling. The good thing is that HP is a work in progress, the more people who buy houses in HP the more of a community and voice we will have for these concerns. Obviously, people who rent don't care as much as the people that own houses here. I'm going to stay positive, I'm sure these things will be fixed. The city is spending too much time and effort to create a disaster. Hey Sean,

I’m surprized you didn’t expect this to happen, you were moving to HP mixed with low icome families. Besides ballard or magnolia, you are going to live in sort of a diverse neighborhood if you want to live in Seattle. That really sucks what you’ve gone through, I just moved here 5 months ago, but its been great for me besides some of the annoyances. I have to admit, if I had to park on the sidewalks, I would be worried, luckily I have a garage. I think you won’t get anything back in return if you sell your house, its a buyers market with prices falling. The good thing is that HP is a work in progress, the more people who buy houses in HP the more of a community and voice we will have for these concerns. Obviously, people who rent don’t care as much as the people that own houses here. I’m going to stay positive, I’m sure these things will be fixed. The city is spending too much time and effort to create a disaster.

]]> By: Sean http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1697 Sean Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:28:41 +0000 http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1697 My wife and I are first time home buyers and bought a nice house in the High Point Community. Our excitement was rapidly smothered as nearly every night our new neighborhood brought concerns. Since I’ve moved here there have been times where we’ve feared for our safety and we have made several changes but it only goes so far. We bought a security system, we now double park our cars in our back yard, I sleep next to my phone, and now keep my gun next to my bed. Some may think this is extreme but in the 2 years I’ve lived here (2005 to present) these are the things we’ve had happen to us…. 1. I’ve had my fence and car smashed by a drunk driver. The accident was loud and incredibly destructive. There were several witnesses but none were able to get a simple license plate from the hit and run. The beer cans and cell phone left on the side walk from driver was not enough evidence for the police. 2. We’ve had a wrench thrown through the window of our car parked in front. More people claimed to have seen it happen but again nobody had any valuable information for police. 3. I have personally witnessed a large gang fight in the street right in front of my house next to a major intersection. This involved several cars blocking both sides of the street and a crowd of about 20 people shouting and yelling and shoving and fist fighting. This crowd managed to scatter like cockroaches before the police arrived. 4. I’ve seen drunk people staggering in the streets and causing violent disturbances before the police had to come and quell that situation. 5. I’ve had a sign ripped off of my fence that had the addresses for other condos in my area. (Sorry mailman! Hope you can find my neighbors!) 6. I’ve had countless times in the early AM hours that I hear booming bass and rap music coming from cars. It’s so Rude! 7. I’m picking up litter on nearly a daily basis on my block. I’m also being charged by the disposal companies for others making a mess! They take the charges back off every time I call but it has become annoying real fast. I’ve discussed the problem with my neighbors but it seems to fall on deaf ears. 8. I see lots of other suspicious activity with of groups walking by including but not limited to, gangs, people talking to themselves loudly, people running and looking over their shoulders like they did something wrong. Admittedly I’m even more suspicious since we’ve had so many things happen in such a short time. I’ve pleaded with the police to increase their patrols but they flat out said “no” and that they don’t have enough staff to support it. So you can see why we keep our cars off the streets, and sleep by my phone. We don’t feel safe in high point and because of this we plan to sell our home (if we can!) and hopefully find a safer neighborhood. I average 90 hour work weeks and spending more time in my community would be great but there simply isn’t time so maybe this all my fault? I do what I can with the time I can spare. Call me crazy but I figured buying a house in a nice new neighborhood would mean I could expect common respect for other people’s property. I don’t care what your skin color is, your political view, or what nation you’re from but I would like to just live in peace and not wonder what has happened to my house every time I’ve been gone for an afternoon. I appreciate this blog existing and I like the constructive conversation that has come from it but I’m sorry if I want things fixed now, not in a few years. I hope the future residents of High Point have better luck then I have had. I had high hopes for High Point but I haven’t seen any improvements in the recent 2 years I’ve been here and if nothing changes…. nothing changes. My wife and I are first time home buyers and bought a nice house in the High Point Community. Our excitement was rapidly smothered as nearly every night our new neighborhood brought concerns. Since I’ve moved here there have been times where we’ve feared for our safety and we have made several changes but it only goes so far. We bought a security system, we now double park our cars in our back yard, I sleep next to my phone, and now keep my gun next to my bed. Some may think this is extreme but in the 2 years I’ve lived here (2005 to present) these are the things we’ve had happen to us….
1. I’ve had my fence and car smashed by a drunk driver. The accident was loud and incredibly destructive. There were several witnesses but none were able to get a simple license plate from the hit and run. The beer cans and cell phone left on the side walk from driver was not enough evidence for the police.
2. We’ve had a wrench thrown through the window of our car parked in front. More people claimed to have seen it happen but again nobody had any valuable information for police.
3. I have personally witnessed a large gang fight in the street right in front of my house next to a major intersection. This involved several cars blocking both sides of the street and a crowd of about 20 people shouting and yelling and shoving and fist fighting. This crowd managed to scatter like cockroaches before the police arrived.
4. I’ve seen drunk people staggering in the streets and causing violent disturbances before the police had to come and quell that situation.
5. I’ve had a sign ripped off of my fence that had the addresses for other condos in my area. (Sorry mailman! Hope you can find my neighbors!)
6. I’ve had countless times in the early AM hours that I hear booming bass and rap music coming from cars. It’s so Rude!
7. I’m picking up litter on nearly a daily basis on my block. I’m also being charged by the disposal companies for others making a mess! They take the charges back off every time I call but it has become annoying real fast. I’ve discussed the problem with my neighbors but it seems to fall on deaf ears.
8. I see lots of other suspicious activity with of groups walking by including but not limited to, gangs, people talking to themselves loudly, people running and looking over their shoulders like they did something wrong.

Admittedly I’m even more suspicious since we’ve had so many things happen in such a short time. I’ve pleaded with the police to increase their patrols but they flat out said “no” and that they don’t have enough staff to support it. So you can see why we keep our cars off the streets, and sleep by my phone. We don’t feel safe in high point and because of this we plan to sell our home (if we can!) and hopefully find a safer neighborhood.

I average 90 hour work weeks and spending more time in my community would be great but there simply isn’t time so maybe this all my fault? I do what I can with the time I can spare. Call me crazy but I figured buying a house in a nice new neighborhood would mean I could expect common respect for other people’s property.

I don’t care what your skin color is, your political view, or what nation you’re from but I would like to just live in peace and not wonder what has happened to my house every time I’ve been gone for an afternoon. I appreciate this blog existing and I like the constructive conversation that has come from it but I’m sorry if I want things fixed now, not in a few years. I hope the future residents of High Point have better luck then I have had.
I had high hopes for High Point but I haven’t seen any improvements in the recent 2 years I’ve been here and if nothing changes…. nothing changes.

]]> By: Neighborhood round-up serves up with Salmon… | Rain City Guide | A Seattle Real Estate Blog... http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1691 Neighborhood round-up serves up with Salmon… | Rain City Guide | A Seattle Real Estate Blog... Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:32:12 +0000 http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1691 [...] over at High Point Blog in the “Tale of Two Cities” and some political incorrectness [...] [...] over at High Point Blog in the “Tale of Two Cities” and some political incorrectness [...]

]]> By: Danielle http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1677 Danielle Sun, 07 Oct 2007 23:30:36 +0000 http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1677 Ken Davis.....you are right on. I am not a resident of High Point, but I do live in White Center. It is astounding to me that people cannot see their oppressive ways. White privilege is like water is to a fish....all around them but they cant see it. Thank the Lord for people like you. Ken Davis…..you are right on. I am not a resident of High Point, but I do live in White Center. It is astounding to me that people cannot see their oppressive ways. White privilege is like water is to a fish….all around them but they cant see it. Thank the Lord for people like you.

]]> By: Ken Davis http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1671 Ken Davis Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:51:53 +0000 http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1671 Perhaps we need a frame work for this discussion. Can we divide the issues into different sections and perhaps set up one of those famous unscientific polls? Public safety seems to be one topic that is important to all. Issues that seem to fit under this topic (off the top of my head) include: 1) Criminal behaviour by residents and/or non residents. 2) Traffic and parking issues (perhaps some have noticed we have become a de facto park and ride?) Inability to get in or out of the neighborhood safely whether driving or on foot. 3) SHA regulations and their enforcement or lack thereof. 4)Fire and emergency access including weather related preparations (Is SHA responsible for snow removal or each homeowner (per Seattle City regulations) or is it a function of the HOA in developed sections?) Coming attractions: 1) What exactly are the plans the builders and SHA have for both phase two and the remaining spaces in phase one. 2) Is a plan being devised to bill for water and sewer on a shared basis inclusive of all residents or divided among the subsidised residents and the homeowners. (some may have noticed no water meters are used in either type of housing) 3) Dog park questions? Westcrest Park is in White Center and yet within the Seattle parks system. A closer site would be nice but I am not sure one could be created within the Highpoint footprint. Homeowners will have to lead on this it seems. Annoyances: I have a few favorites and I am sure other do as well. Some I am aware of to start the list: 1) Wireless lan pollution. (There is so much radio on a number of frequencies, I had to use attenuators to get my uhf remotes to work. Microwave on the 2.4GHZ and 5.8ghz bands are fighting invisibly all over the neighborhood since many do not know how to change channels on their CPE or router) 2)Trash Pickup and windblown litter. (including resident littering) 3)Design flaws and construction errors (Some I have noticed are drains 3 inches above street level, Gutter downspouts that terminate below street level, garage doors that cannot open enough to allow Pickups or SUV's (or tall people)to use them. Expensive and yet non energy efficient bulbs in very odd sizes and locations. Drains that still have construction "socks" on them which will lead to storm water backup when the rainy season gets really cranked up. Add your own or address one of these if you have an idea or info or suggestions for coping. Perhaps we need a frame work for this discussion.

Can we divide the issues into different sections and perhaps set up one of those famous unscientific polls?

Public safety seems to be one topic that is important to all.

Issues that seem to fit under this topic (off the top of my head) include:

1) Criminal behaviour by residents and/or non residents.

2) Traffic and parking issues (perhaps some have noticed we have become a de facto park and ride?) Inability to get in or out of the neighborhood safely whether driving or on foot.

3) SHA regulations and their enforcement or lack thereof.

4)Fire and emergency access including weather related preparations (Is SHA responsible for snow removal or each homeowner (per Seattle City regulations) or is it a function of the HOA in developed sections?)

Coming attractions:

1) What exactly are the plans the builders and SHA have for both phase two and the remaining spaces in phase one.

2) Is a plan being devised to bill for water and sewer on a shared basis inclusive of all residents or divided among the subsidised residents and the homeowners. (some may have noticed no water meters are used in either type of housing)

3) Dog park questions? Westcrest Park is in White Center and yet within the Seattle parks system. A closer site would be nice but I am not sure one could be created within the Highpoint footprint. Homeowners will have to lead on this it seems.

Annoyances:
I have a few favorites and I am sure other do as well.

Some I am aware of to start the list:
1) Wireless lan pollution. (There is so much radio on a number of frequencies, I had to use attenuators to get my uhf remotes to work. Microwave on the 2.4GHZ and 5.8ghz bands are fighting invisibly all over the neighborhood since many do not know how to change channels on their CPE or router)

2)Trash Pickup and windblown litter. (including resident littering)

3)Design flaws and construction errors

(Some I have noticed are drains 3 inches above street level, Gutter downspouts that terminate below street level, garage doors that cannot open enough to allow Pickups or SUV’s (or tall people)to use them. Expensive and yet non energy efficient bulbs in very odd sizes and locations. Drains that still have construction “socks” on them which will lead to storm water backup when the rainy season gets really cranked up.

Add your own or address one of these if you have an idea or info or suggestions for coping.

]]> By: JW http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1670 JW Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:50:11 +0000 http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1670 I think this blog is a great way to communicate. There should be a High Point Crime Watch! I have two close friends that bought a house in the HPC and I have house sat for them. I don't think it is fair that when I drive my Prius down the road and a "ride" comes down the road of a resident they do not let me through, it's like a game of chicken and is unsafe driving. I have seen herds of wannabe's late at night and have called Officers. The no noise city ordinance that states "no excessive noise after 10pm" does not seem to apply to many of the lower income residents. They spent a half million dollars on their house and now at times they wants to keep a rifle in their bedroom. I have lived in White Center so I know how the lower communities have a higher crime rates. This should be a good thing for Seattle and sooner than later it will just turn into one more broken community unless the police make their presence heard. But with shootings and stabbings happening almost every week in the Seattle area, the police must get their act together soon! I think this blog is a great way to communicate. There should be a High Point Crime Watch! I have two close friends that bought a house in the HPC and I have house sat for them. I don’t think it is fair that when I drive my Prius down the road and a “ride” comes down the road of a resident they do not let me through, it’s like a game of chicken and is unsafe driving. I have seen herds of wannabe’s late at night and have called Officers. The no noise city ordinance that states “no excessive noise after 10pm” does not seem to apply to many of the lower income residents. They spent a half million dollars on their house and now at times they wants to keep a rifle in their bedroom. I have lived in White Center so I know how the lower communities have a higher crime rates. This should be a good thing for Seattle and sooner than later it will just turn into one more broken community unless the police make their presence heard. But with shootings and stabbings happening almost every week in the Seattle area, the police must get their act together soon!

]]> By: Jim http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1668 Jim Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:24:09 +0000 http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1668 Ken, I know that this is a working class neighborhood and that is one of the reasons why I moved here. What I meant by” transitional” is that people are going to be held more accountable for their actions now than what they were held to in the past. Just because someone is poor doesn't give them a free pass to break the law and not respect their other neighbors. Now I realize that the majority of the people in Highpoint are great .....but let's be honest.....there are a few bad apples. I don't want those "bad apples" to feel comfortable breaking laws and/or causing disturbances. I feel that is one of the reasons why this community is here...so we can learn form one another. I bring a strong work ethic and an intolerance to crime. Others in this neighborhood bring diversity, community involvement etc......I think it is a perfect blend. This neighborhood is in the infancy of it's rebirth with some speed bumps ahead no doubt, but if we work together utilizing our strengths I think that this can be a great place for everyone. I think all of this discussion has been very worthwhile...... Ken, I know that this is a working class neighborhood and that is one of the reasons why I moved here. What I meant by” transitional” is that people are going to be held more accountable for their actions now than what they were held to in the past. Just because someone is poor doesn’t give them a free pass to break the law and not respect their other neighbors. Now I realize that the majority of the people in Highpoint are great …..but let’s be honest…..there are a few bad apples. I don’t want those “bad apples” to feel comfortable breaking laws and/or causing disturbances. I feel that is one of the reasons why this community is here…so we can learn form one another. I bring a strong work ethic and an intolerance to crime. Others in this neighborhood bring diversity, community involvement etc……I think it is a perfect blend. This neighborhood is in the infancy of it’s rebirth with some speed bumps ahead no doubt, but if we work together utilizing our strengths I think that this can be a great place for everyone.

I think all of this discussion has been very worthwhile……

]]> By: arrogantb http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1667 arrogantb Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:45:07 +0000 http://highpointblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/one-high-point-two-communities/#comment-1667 I'm guessing Ballard was too expensive for on your presumably modest income. It's nice not to have to deal with you sub $100k/year types types and your circa-1994 Volvos in our neighborhood. I’m guessing Ballard was too expensive for on your presumably modest income.

It’s nice not to have to deal with you sub $100k/year types types and your circa-1994 Volvos in our neighborhood.

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